First off thanks for all the helpful ideas and the manual. You guys a great. About 15 minutes ago I got to fire up after so many tries. Here is what I found. The rudder did need to be reversed, why I have no idea, but until it was it would not ramp up. The other problem was it was not binding. You where dead on with that. The DX8 has a bind plug for the receiver, and for some reason the one I had it didn't like. As luck would have it I had another DX8 in a box never been open so I tried that one. First try and no more problems, well with the quad starting any ways now lets see if I can fly it, that will be a whole new ball of wax. THANKS AGAIN!
