Hello Tony and all, thank you all very much with your input. Tony, i did watch the whole video series twice before joining and posting my problem, your setup videos are one of a kind and great. But to all out there that own a DXi transmitter it is subject to internal problems as with anything electronic. After spending 15 hours straight and starting to feel rather stupid,This whole problem on the second model was the transmitter, the first one was as Tony stated above, my swash was fine as far as being level, put did not have the pitch set correctly, did manual adjustment on the lenghts of the rods due to swash being to high and changed the swash mix pitch from 60% to 98% and made just a few blade adjustments and it flies like a champ! The second model whitch i was setting up as model #4 on my radio is a totally different story, i don't know if anyone with a Sektrum has ran accross this before or not, but heres the scoop after tirelessly contiuning to solve the servos problem, i thought i had a bad aileron servo, so i changed it,walla, the servo was working now i was able to reverse and get all servos responding to the correct inputs, i took a break, powered off the model and the radio thinking i was close and down to the final tweaking, but when i turned the radio back on and powered the copter the problem duplicated itself again, the aileron servo would not move again, i swapped connections on the reciever, the servo started working again but the servo i swapped connections with on the reciever was not working, so i changed the Orange reciever to a specktrum 6115 and it was all working again, i powered off the copter then the radio then i powered both up again, the servo would not move again! So my shortcut on model reset was to change it to airplane mode then back to heli, i input all data again( i physically had written down each setting i had done) back into the radio, it was all working perfect again until i shut it off and powered back up again. That was it for me, i took it to my hobbyshop and to a man that knew these inside and out, what he did suprised me but not really him, he changed everything to model#5, totally leaving model#4 empty, everything worked, he powered everything off and back on, it was working fine. Conclusion, the Spektrum radio has a internal problem with model#4, he stated he had seen this once before with the DXi6 and Horizon had confirmed it. So if this ever happens to anybody, don't think you have lost it as i did, make sure you don't have a radio problem, Spektrum is great and is going to replace my radio, so i wrote down all 4 models info, so when i recieve the replacement i can just put in the settings for each model. This was a very much learning exp for me being a newbie and i hope it may help someone else in the future, again thanks to everbody and im sure i'll be back many times with different questions and issues. im about to fall over now due to mental and physical depletion, so i will post this update and get some rest knowing i can fly in the morning!