General Learning 3D
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Tony
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I can't think of another thread like this (that's not to say it's not here lol) so we will make this one "the" thread.
Expo, it's pretty much trial and error, but I'm not sure why they would say that. 3D is about pretty aggressive stick movements so you will actually be going into the faster zones of the expo more than it taming the helicopter. If you want to use it, try about 20% but don't expect much of anything to really be easier. 3D is about muscle memory and if you don't have a simulator, get one. It will save you a LOT of money in the future.
What maneuvers do you have down now? What are you working on?
Expo, it's pretty much trial and error, but I'm not sure why they would say that. 3D is about pretty aggressive stick movements so you will actually be going into the faster zones of the expo more than it taming the helicopter. If you want to use it, try about 20% but don't expect much of anything to really be easier. 3D is about muscle memory and if you don't have a simulator, get one. It will save you a LOT of money in the future.
What maneuvers do you have down now? What are you working on?
Jerryzman
New Member
Tony, thanks for the response. Maybe I should have mentioned it's a plane not a heli. I gave up on helicopters a while ago. Anyway, I'm starting out with the basics, a Harrier. Michael Wargo seems to feel that at maximum deflection, with no expo, your plane will fly erratic. So I think he feels that expo will smooth out the maneuvers. Not sure. It's like my Rare Bear. At 100mph, any stick movement you can see it react. I gave a little down elevator, very little, and nearly put it in the dirt.
Tony
Staff member
I have been in heli's so long that I automatically go to them lmao.
Okay, airplane 3D! Harriers are a great first move after things like inverted flying and knife edges. Harriers make you really control the plane because it's quite likely that you are going to get wing rock. Not to mention having to keep the perfect air speed and elevator to keep it in the air. It's great training.
On a plane, yes, I would definitely add expo. I would start at about 20-25% on all controls. The reason is what I mentioned above, wing rock. You are going to have a tendency to over correct and as long as you don't move past half way, expo will help you to NOT over correct by slowing the stick movements down. Thus slowing down the reaction and or over-reaction to the rock.
I hope this answers your question. If not, let me know.
Okay, airplane 3D! Harriers are a great first move after things like inverted flying and knife edges. Harriers make you really control the plane because it's quite likely that you are going to get wing rock. Not to mention having to keep the perfect air speed and elevator to keep it in the air. It's great training.
On a plane, yes, I would definitely add expo. I would start at about 20-25% on all controls. The reason is what I mentioned above, wing rock. You are going to have a tendency to over correct and as long as you don't move past half way, expo will help you to NOT over correct by slowing the stick movements down. Thus slowing down the reaction and or over-reaction to the rock.
I hope this answers your question. If not, let me know.
Smoggie
Well-Known Member
I use a lot of expo on my 3D planes, over 50% in most cases on the high rates settings. If you dont use bags of expo the plane will be super twitchy at higher speeds.
Rudder control is really important if flying 3D. Many sports flyers hardly use rudder at all, sometimes only to steer on the ground, so practice using rudder. Mr Wargo did a series of videos about learning 3D, they might be a good started but very important is getting the right plane (something lightweight, preferably quite crash resistant, and purpose designed for 3D) then it's just practice and more practice.
Rudder control is really important if flying 3D. Many sports flyers hardly use rudder at all, sometimes only to steer on the ground, so practice using rudder. Mr Wargo did a series of videos about learning 3D, they might be a good started but very important is getting the right plane (something lightweight, preferably quite crash resistant, and purpose designed for 3D) then it's just practice and more practice.