We Are Youtube Soft Banned

Never heard that term? Yea, neither have I until today. I'm sure all of you have seen the issues with the live streams buffering horribly and me over here trying everything I know how to do to fix it. All the while I was simultaneously streaming to Twitch with the EXACT same settings and having absolutely NO issues whatsoever.

So today, I did some testing.

First thing I did was call up my ISP and ask them if they had a ban on my account for whatever reason and slowing youtube down. I already knew the answer because a company that put in a BRAND NEW FIBER INFRASTRUCTURE could care less about a 300mbps upload speed. So I did a test upload of a 3GB file so that I would have a little time to play with some settings.

In the end, I found a work around, but I'm not happy about it. When I upload/stream from my normal internet, youtube only allows about 7mbps speeds. Complete crap! But, while that upload is going on, if I hit the switch on my VPN and switch over to a dallas server, it goes up to 250mbps. Turn it off, back down to 7mbps.

So youtube has soft banned my IP address. Why do I say my IP, because I have tried this test on multiple youtube accounts with the same result. Coincidence? I think not.....

The more important question is why? I know they (YouTube) has had a lot of controversy over first amendment stuff. I know we as a community are not trying push that agenda. There new policies are very open to interpretation. Known one knows what the current rules are.

So I say again why are you being throttled?

It happened right after I made the video asking people to come over to Twitch. Unethical? Oh yes. Anything a small fry like me can do about it? NOPE! Well, I can use a VPN lmao. Which is exactly what we did on a 3 hour live stream today lol. Worked like a charm.

You tube just likes being a dink to people...don't they. Do they realize or don't care that their chasing people away.

You are forgetting one specific aspect. YouTube is too large to just die. So no matter how many people they piss off, they will not have any issues keeping 'other' members. Kind of is what it is.

Tony said:

You are forgetting one specific aspect. YouTube is too large to just die. So no matter how many people they piss off, they will not have any issues keeping 'other' members. Kind of is what it is.

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Sounds like a monopoly company to me lol.

Yup, pretty much. There are other platforms out there, but none that the public has embraced like they did YT.

murankar said:

I know they (YouTube) has had a lot of controversy over first amendment stuff. I know we as a community are not trying push that agenda.

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The 1st Amendment doesn't apply to private companies and what they may allow or not allow ... it applies to government entities only so that the government can't control what people or business' say or print ( as long as it isn't slander etc ).

Yup, same way I can set rules on what people can and cannot say here on this site. YT is just taking it WAY too far to please the adverts.

Alright, update time. I woke up this morning and decided, before coffee, to have a little "chat" with YouTube. Apparently there is a way for a channel with over 5000 subscribers and 20,000 hours in the last year of view time, to get into contact with them. so, I did....

I told them the issue, Told them it was on their end and guess what..... Yup, they basically told me to kick rocks. No help whatsoever. All they told me was to fill out a "feedback report" so that "our engineers can take a look at it". Right, like the "engineers" are going to even see that report.... But, I sent it anyway. We will see what will come of it *cough*nothing*cough*....

I'm loving my VPN more and more now.

I do have one more step though. I'm going to contact my ISP and have them push through a DNS update to me. Since I changed my internet I'm no longer on a static IP. So I can force an IP change. Maybe this IP address is the issue. I guess we will find out when I have a new one pushed to me...

I get warehouses saying about the first amendment and private entities. The issues fall when the provideder decided whether or not they are a platform or a publisher. The rules are different for the two.

If YouTube claims they are a publisher then they have the right to sensor what they want. If they are a platform then they don't have the right to sensor . This battle on YouTube has been going on for the last month and half. That's why YouTube just recently changed their rules.

If your trying to keep YouTube as a vehicle for your media I strongly suggest you look into what's going on so you don't get demonitized or kicked off.

Right now Google is about to head into an battle of anti trust. A moderate democrat hopefule is filing a lawsuit for $50 million against Google for censorship.

I have looked into it, and I'm not going to get demonitized or kicked off. I have 0 strikes against my account and it has been that way since day 1. I am not going around any "rules" per say. I can say that because their rule stated that "if you are banned, you can not use another account to live stream or upload videos to". I am paraphrasing here. So if I did have a full on ban or if I had community strikes or whatever, then using a different account would get me kicked off of the platform entirely. What I"m doing is changing my IP address. Again, I am not banned,I have no strikes against any of my accounts, so this is not going against any of their guidelines. This was 100% an unethical move by their bots to soft ban me because I told my subscribers of YouTube to come over to Twitch because of the things going on within YouTube.

Their bots can take what I say and turn it into a readable language for the bot, decipher what I had said and compare that against a list of words that they "don't like". Because I told my subscribers that I build to head over to another platform, the bots gave my IP address (not my account, this is happening on all accounts until I change my IP) a soft ban that consists of lowering my speed at which I can upload videos to the site. I am working with my ISP right now to change my DHCP lease and get it updated to change my IP address, and then we will see where it goes from there.

In no way am I doing anything to compromise my accounts on YouTube and I am not breaking any rules in doing this. 99.9% of people are on a dynamic IP and their IP address changes. It's common. As an example, on your account, since you have been on this site, you have used 324 different IP addresses. It's very common and not against their TOS.

Alright, just spent an hour on the phone with my ISP trying some different settings and it is confirmed, my IP was soft banned from YT. Was this me? I don't think so. I think, when I received the DHCP lease, that the IP I was given was black listed before and I just happen to be the unlucky person to get it. Unfortunately, the steps we had to test to get to the final resolution ended up getting the tech in some serious trouble. Apperantly what I was requesting is for business accounts only (way more money every month) and the fact that I was able to get it resolved was nothing short of luck. But right at the end of the conversation his boss came in asking what he was doing, and you could hear the tone in his voice. It wasn't pleasant. But, the issues should now be resolved. We will be testing this later on tonight, maybe. Not sure yet. I'm about to tear this office apart and move some things around so I may not have everything back up and running in time to do one tonight.

What a nightmare....

murankar said:

If YouTube claims they are a publisher then they have the right to sensor what they want. If they are a platform then they don't have the right to sensor . This battle on YouTube has been going on for the last month and half. That's why YouTube just recently changed their rules.

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You need to keep up with the law... Let me quote from a recent court case about this exact subject ( in a California court )....

But the judge said Google and YouTube, both units of Mountain View, California-based Alphabet Inc (GOOGL.O), did not qualify as “state actors” subject to the First Amendment by creating a “public forum” for speech.

“Defendants are private entities who created their own video-sharing social media website and make decisions about whether and how to regulate content that has been uploaded on that website,” Koh wrote.

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So it isn't a matter if they are a platform, publisher or any other private entity ... the 1st Amendment simply doesn't apply to private entities no matter what you call them.

So I was running through what we just had to do to change my ip address, and that gave me an idea of how to resolve this in the future if it happens. He had said that I received a new lease about 20 days ago. That is right about the time I replaced my router. While he was working on my issue, he said the IP address that was given out by the DHCP server was locked to my routers MAC address. So a new MAC address will request a new IP address. I have a TON of routers in my house so theoretically all I would have to do is just connect up a different router and it should renew my lease without having to call them.

And this is made even easier by the fact that I"m about to build an entirely overkill router and I will have my choice of 8 different NIC's to use, all with different MAC addresses. Yea, I now have work arounds lol. Networking, what a PITA!!!!!!!